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Focusing on frail, senior patients

Tan Tock Seng (TTS) focuses on frail, senior patients as it celebrates 180th anniversary- ST online, 20 July 2024.

I congratulate TTS Hospital on its 180th anniversary. It has definitely come a very long way over the years serving our country and generations of Singaporeans.

Singapore is a very fast aging society. We might have alearly crossed the line where our over 60 years old are more and still strongly growing than our under 16 years old for the simple reason that people are living longer lives on one hand and our total fertility rates have plunged to historical low under this mediocre pap government on the other.

Reading the news, my mind drifted to our expensive medical costs and the first thing that came to my mind was Medisave.

Medisave is a very useful saving scheme and the older one gets, the more one appreciates its usefulness. It can be used to pay for a whole range of medical services and treatments, eg, hospitalisation, natural delivery, polyclinic visitations, surgery, medical fees for one's immediate family members and much more and of course they are subjected to a cap. To have a maximum cap is the right policy but it can certainly be further improved upon.

I would like to suggest the following.

In the face of our fast aging population and their need for more geriatric care, I would like our MOH to relook and revise its allowable medisave claims across the many different medical conditions and ages of its patients.

Trim or reduce the amount a younger person can claim from his/her medisave when seeking treatments at the hospitals but as he/she ages, the allowable medisave claims can be increased. For example, a certain claimable amount for those under 20, another slightly increased amount for those aged 20 to 30 years old band and so forth.

After all, a younger person is more likely to be healthier and economically active than a senior who is likely to be not as healthy and not economically productive but needs to spend more for his/her medical care and needs.

The details could be worked out after MOH's review but the above suggestion is the direction that we should embark on in order not to compromise the quality of our healthcare, a big chunk of medisave being used up prematurely and further burdening the state financially.

Think.

 

Simon Lim

 

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68 Responses to “Focusing on frail, senior patients”

  • Poor Begging Sinkies:

    Sinkies, thinking or unthinking like Simon, are reduced to beggars in our own country. We beg the high and mighty for allowing us to use more of our money. That’s correct.

    Meanwhile, UK people are enjoying free, FREE, healthcare.

    Are we really thinking?

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  • rice:

    Surgery costs e$calate at much quicker $peed than other medical costs beside cancer treatment.
    Many surgeons are pushing up surgery charges following the not so good lead of govt hospitals.

    More and more senior/elderly sgs prefer to bear their sufferings as they are being “OUT-priced” by $ky-high surgery costs that are continuously $kyrocketting still.

    The govt remains quite nonchalant of medical cost e$calations as they are of ri$ing COL IN OUR TOP OF THE WORLD COL $INKAPOOR.

    To many elderly poor,they simply grit and bear the pain.
    This is uncivilised of a self-glorified FIRST WORLD $TATE,IS IT NOT?

    So MANY WELL-HEELED YOUNG SGS BOAST ABOUT LOVING ANIMALS.
    They spend lavishly on their PETS BUT when it comes to even their ageing sick parents,they suddenly become CALCULATIVE.
    HOW DEBASED!
    I SCORN THEM.
    Such SHITTY HYPOCRISY.

    TIME FOR G TO LOOK MORE COMPASSIONATELY INTO THE PROBLEMS OF OUR ELDERLY SGS.
    NOT every elderly is rich like SOME OF OUR “RETIRED” ministers,perm $ecs and even former ELECTED PRESIDENT$???

    Well,BETTER TO LOVE THE ELDERLY FIRST BEFORE BOASTING ABOUT LOVING ANIMALS,am i right?

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  • Sporeans Keep Govt Employed:

    Spore is a place where people have no respect for fellow humans. Everyone’s in the rat race and some will push and shove others just to get a quicker foot on the MRT escalator. A few seconds faster is also a win. Same for non existent road courtesy.

    It happens in schools, army. People in authority DEMAND respect as if owed and have no qualms belittling those more junior. Parents are also very calculating with the high costs, so children learn.

    You go school/ university, how well you do is up to you. No one will help you. So you learn to be self centered, selfish. Eliminate the competition. It is the way to success.

    Morrisey has this song “we hate it when our friends become successful”. Why? They become arrogant, snobbish, disdainful of under achievers. They won’t share their wealth or success with you. Nor will they tell you how to be successful.

    Is it any wonder people prefer pets? They can’t be nasty to you or betray you or say unpleasant things.

    I am not in the least surprised at the way things are.

    rice:
    Surgery costs e$calate at much quicker $peed than other medical costs beside cancer treatment.

    So MANY WELL-HEELED YOUNG SGS BOAST ABOUT LOVING ANIMALS.
    They spendlavishly on their PETS BUT when it comes to even their ageing sick parents,they suddenly become CALCULATIVE.
    HOW DEBASED!
    I SCORN THEM.
    Such SHITTY HYPOCRISY.

    TIME FOR G TO LOOK MORE COMPASSIONATELY INTO THE PROBLEMS OF OUR ELDERLY SGS.
    NOT every elderly is rich like SOME OF OUR “RETIRED” ministers,perm $ecs and even former ELECTED PRESIDENT$???

    Well,BETTER TO LOVE THE ELDERLY FIRST BEFORE BOASTING ABOUT LOVING ANIMALS,am i right?

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  • Harder Truths:

    These old people are the MAIN reason the Despot and his Regime are so powerful today. Let them get their karma for supporting the evil Regime, even now. I will not give them one cent – let them get it from their beloved Gahmen. Or let them rot. They made their decision now they have to pay for it.

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  • Megalamagai:

    Tan Tock Seng is well staffed with competent professionals and other personnel.

    Tan Tock Seng alone could not achieve this.

    Thanks to the personnel who managed the greater environment permitting Tan Tock Seng and others to succeed in every thing they aspired to achieve.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Sporeans Keep Govt Employed:

    The first 3 paragraphs , many other countries same also. Especially China. School wise South Korea and Japan same also.

    4th paragraph,
    Not truth.
    They tell you you also wont make it. Something you wont do like evade taxes. Sometimes they have the luck. Sometime its their character.
    Of course, when they are successful they see things differently compare to ordinary working folks.

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  • God is watching……!:

    God is watching…….!

    Now, do you feel air being blown into your left ear, through your hypothalamus, and out from your right ear?

    Harder Truths:
    These old people are the MAIN reason the Despot and his Regime are so powerful today. Let them get their karma for supporting the evil Regime, even now. I will not give them one cent – let them get it from their beloved Gahmen. Or let them rot. They made their decision now they have to pay for it.

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  • Elder care:

    Elder care will get more expensive…
    Many Seniors cannot cope with the increase in Medical care costs with their existing Saving scheme and Retirement Savings.

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  • BTO-Thieves:

    ”The Straits Times understands that the number of cases involving HDB lease infringements for each year from 2019 to 2023 has been consistent.”
    ” From 2019 to 2023, it conducted 29,000 inspections, or 500 a month. It also investigated 4,400 cases following public feedback.
    In addition, it monitors flat listings to detect lease infringements.”
    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/some-70-flats-reacquired-by-hdb-for-lease-infringements-from-2019-to-2023
    Every Tom. Dick and Harry have a friend, neighbor or relative who is known to be abusing the BTO-MOP system.
    Rampant Problem.
    Some are not even in Singapore.
    So the cases HAVE NOT GONE DOWN.
    HDB is a toothless Tiger.
    After all these years… a very simple rule cannot be enforced.
    Sinkies and PRs are playing ‘CATCH ME IF YOU CAN’ with HDB.
    500 CASES PER MONTH!!!!
    Just ask them to explain their power and water consumption.
    This problem should have disappear 50 years ago with this simple solution.
    Unless HDB have ulterior motive not to solve the problem.
    Many BTO-Thieves live in Landed property or PRs that own properties overseas.
    What a joke—HDB actually have to pretend to monitor flat listings.
    Check THE POWER AND WATER BILL or ask them to submit these for 5 years!!!!!
    Stop the Bull

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  • BTO -Water Bill for 12 months:

    @
    ”Check THE POWER AND WATER BILL or ask them to submit these for 5 years!!!!!
    Stop the Bull”

    No need 5 years water bill. PUB send first 12 month water bills to HDB after issue of BTO keys.
    HDB need to employ a cheap part-time clerk to vet these water bills.
    No need AI nor Big Data.
    Problem disappear immediately!
    Rules have to be enforced or else scrap it.

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  • Hopeless Sinkies:

    Shockingly, Sinkies are offering more privacy invasion to their master. Come, check our water bills. Any time you want. Come, install cctv at our doors, and in the bedrooms too. Anyone not contributing to tfr must pay a monthly tfr tax.

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  • rice:

    @BTO-Thieves

    Good and salient comment.
    HDB has been $leeping on the job for years on.
    Many HDB OWNE$ especially PRs have been raking in bigly capital gain$ or handsome rental$.
    And,you are right,MOST ,IF NOT ALL,PR-HDB OWNER$ OWN PROPERTIES OUTSIDE SG AND EVEN IN $G.

    ELDERLY sgs who need to DOWNGRADE from private homes tp HDB ARE BEING PENALISED MOST UNFAIRLY.
    YET,MND/HDB DARE PLACE BLAME ON THESE NEEDFUL SENIORS/ELDERLY as they need to downgrade owing to HIGHER N HIGHER COL especially in medical cate costs.

    The HDB NEEDS TO REFORM ITS POLICIES PERTAINING TO PRs.
    Many have reaped humongous return$ ADULTERATING the DAFY POLICIES.
    PERHAPS SUCH POLICIES WERE FORMULATED BY PRs working in HDB ALL THESE YEARS.

    WE NEED TRUBLU POLICY-FORMULATORS SO THAT THE POLICY FECISION-MAKERS LIKE PERM SEC N MINISTER ARE GUIDED TO FINALISE POLICIES THAT ARE TRULY GOOD FOR SG CITIZENS IN GENERAL.

    As it is,HDB IS CLEARLY SLEEPING ON THE JOB.
    To ‘ALLEVIATE’ ,HDB SHOULD HONESTLY CONSIDER TO BUILD BONA FIDE “RETIREMENT VILLAGES’ ASAP TO CATER TO OUR AGEING POPULACE.

    NINISTER DESMOND LEE,ARE YOU LISTENING,SIR?

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  • dave:

    PAP mandate strong:
    @ Sporeans Keep Govt Employed:

    The first 3 paragraphs , many other countries same also. Especially China. School wise South Korea and Japan same also.

    4th paragraph,
    Not truth.
    They tell you you also wont make it. Something you wont do like evade taxes. Sometimes they have the luck. Sometime its their character.
    Of course, when they are successful they see things differently compare to ordinary working folks.

    American paid agent ordered to continue to drag China in as punching bag.

    Think of what the Chinese leaders are paid and their free medical services for their people that did not cost a bomb, or an arm or a leg.

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  • Poor Man-date:

    Whatever he reads, his eyes go red and green over China.
    e.g. Trump got shot. He screamed, “Xi is worse.” Totally unrelated. But he had to scream something bad about China.

    When he is overwhelmed with evidence that China is good, his last face-saving response is, what don’t you move to China. He thought China is like Sg with its open arms and open legs policy to welcome every tom, dicky and hairy.

    dave: American paid agent ordered to continue to drag China in as punching bag.

    Think of what the Chinese leaders are paid and their free medical services for their people that did not cost a bomb, or an arm or a leg.

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  • Only the Guilty Need to FEAR:

    PUB or SPower. are govt bodies that know everything about your utilty consumption if you live in Sinkieland, probably since the day you were born.
    For them to send this info to HDB to weed out the BTO-Thieves makes a lot of sense.
    Govt bodies sharing info to catch thieves is a no brainer—happens all the time.
    Since this is a 40 year-old unsolved problem and is RAMPANT, it is A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION!
    Only the GUILTY need to FEAR.

    Hopeless Sinkies:
    Shockingly, Sinkies are offering more privacy invasion to their master. Come, check our water bills. Any time you want. Come, install cctv at our doors, and in the bedrooms too. Anyone not contributing to tfr must pay a monthly tfr tax.

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  • Hopeless Sinkies:

    The innocent can walk naked down Orchard Road. Show off that you have nothing to hide.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ When he is overwhelmed with evidence that China is good, his last face-saving response is, what don’t you move to China. He thought China is like Sg with its open arms and open legs policy to welcome every tom, dicky and hairy.

    So? What wrong with that ? We have people who say Malaysia good and he walk his talk. He relocate to Malaysia. You support China but you are not allow to migrate. WTF! Should you go to Sg’s China embassy and bang table with China embassador. Ask him he understand what is reciprocate. Ask him i support China yet i cannot migrate to China. Na boey, What Chinese muz support Chinese ? Yet Afro brothers can ? You want me to switch side and support USA is it ? I make sure my friends , colleagues, relatives all support the west ok. Including my malaysia indonesia S.E.A friends as well. You muz aply the power of leverage to negotiate and achieve your objective !

    Are you sure i m overwhelmed with evidence that China is good ? If China is really 100% good truly good I will be on your side already.

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  • dave:

    PAP mandate strong:
    @ When he is overwhelmed with evidence that China is good, his last face-saving response is, what don’t you move to China. He thought China is like Sg with its open arms and open legs policy to welcome every tom, dicky and hairy.

    Are you sure i m overwhelmed with evidence that China is good ? If China is really 100% good truly good I will be on your side already.

    Using several nicks to hide your identity to write hate mails against China and Chinese. This is your main task in this site, full time. How much are you paid for doing this?

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  • China Too Happy for the West:

    Where in this world can you find 100% good? Paradise?

    China is 91% happiness, and that is already top of all countries (IPSOS happiness report 2023).

    You are overwhelmed by the happiness, but you are excited by any unhappiness (real and fake).

    PAP mandate strong: Are you sure i m overwhelmed with evidence that China is good ? If China is really 100% good truly good I will be on your side already.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Why worry for me ???

    Hey man i m not the one interested to move to China. I rather move to Malaysia. I been to China and whether you call it “水土不服” or whatever, i dont like China. I make it clear before.
    It is you all who s interested and i have never stop you nor dissuade you from going but instead i encourage you to go ahead. But somehow no action for 10 years or more. Thats a good example of talk c**k forever.

    Medical free ?
    Sorry man my companies also hired a few prcs, the answer i received from them is different.

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  • See No Evil, Hear no evil:

    @BTO-Thieves:
    ”” From 2019 to 2023, it conducted 29,000 inspections, or 500 a month. It also investigated 4,400 cases following public feedback.”
    WahPiang…..500 cases per month.
    HDB inspectors must be very busy…may have to activate/outsource to CERTIS.
    Can you imagine if we have to investigate 500 molest cases per month on the MRT?
    So what is the ULTERIOR motive that HDB do not want to solve this 40-year old problem?
    If only ONE of the owner of the Confiscated HDB flat name was published in the Straits Times front page????

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  • Pappies:

    All good things, must chop for yourself? Typical pappy.

    PAP mandate strong:
    Why worry for me ???

    Hey man i m not the one interested to move to China. I rather move to Malaysia. I been to China and whetheryou call it “水土不服” or whatever, i dont like China. I make it clear before.
    It is you all who s interested and i have never stop you nor dissuade you from going but instead i encourage you to go ahead. But somehow no action for 10 years or more. Thats a good example of talk c**k forever.

    Medical free ?
    Sorry man my companies also hired a few prcs, the answer i received from them is different.

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  • dave:

    Pappies:
    July 29, 2024 at 2:45 am (Quote)

    All good things, must chop for yourself? Typical pappy.

    PAP mandate strong:
    Why worry for me ???

    Hey man i m not the one interested to move to China. I rather move to Malaysia. I been to China and whetheryou call it “水土不服” or whatever, i dont like China. I make it clear before.
    It is you all who s interested and i have never stop you nor dissuade you from going but instead i encourage you to go ahead. But somehow no action for 10 years or more. Thats a good example of talk c**k forever.

    Medical free ?
    Sorry man my companies also hired a few prcs, the answer i received from them is different.
    _______________________________________________________

    This rogue is doing more harm to discredit the party behind him. His is a disgrace to his party. Everyone here knows where he is coming from.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Very simple. Many prcs in working in sg, you go ask around you get your answers. Ask them the best.

    Wanna go China , very simple. Just pack your bags, book a flight ticket and tomorrow or within a few days you will be on your way. Sg international passport are welcome.

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  • rice:

    Let’s just make one thing clear.
    The G’s DUTY IS TO SERVE us ,NOT TO $CREW us.
    Is our G fulfilling this DUTY.
    DUTY IS MORE THAN DOING A JOB.
    Those not keen on SERVING OUGHT NOT TO STAND FOR ELECTION.
    Better they let other sgs have the honour of SERVING.
    PUBLIC SERVICE IS NOT AN EGO TRIP,IT IS A DUTY TRIP.

    PLEASE DO NOT COME FORWARD IF YOU HAVE NO HONEST INTENTION TO TRULY SERVE.THANK YOU.

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  • Mandaishikelang:

    U said one thing but means another lah!

    Always make bad comments about the country and its people, real intention must be that “ it is a horrible country with 1.4 billion uncultured people”, stay away, don’t have any thing to do with the country and the people.

    As cunning as fox!

    PAP mandate strong:
    Why worry for me ???

    Hey man i m not the one interested to move to China. I rather move to Malaysia. I been to China and whetheryou call it “水土不服” or whatever, i dont like China. I make it clear before.
    It is you all who s interested and i have never stop you nor dissuade you from going but instead i encourage you to go ahead. But somehow no action for 10 years or more. Thats a good example of talk c**k forever.

    Medical free ?
    Sorry man my companies also hired a few prcs, the answer i received from them is different.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    I dont understand your logic.

    I dont like China so i stay away unless it’s company assignment or a biz trip. Fair right.
    Like my colleague he like Japan and S Korea, every 2, 3 or 4 years he will go tour there with his family.

    You like China but you stay away instead ???
    Exactly whats your problem.

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  • Pappies:

    One moment you say “relocate”, next moment you say “tour”. You are confused. All incoherent comments. To follow your own argument, your colleague who like Japan must relocate to Japan. Tours not counted.

    PAP mandate strong:
    I dont understand your logic.

    I dont like China so i stay away unless it’s company assignmentor a biz trip. Fair right.
    Like my colleague he like Japan and S Korea, every 2, 3 or 4 years he will go tour there with his family.

    You like China but you stay away instead ???
    Exactly whats your problem.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    But my colleagues no complaints or kpkb and whinnings about Sg.

    He and family also supporter of PAP!

    How ? Reason good enough or not.

    Another reason is to migrate to Japan and South K is you have to pass some of their language proficiency test requirements.

    Whereas migrate China , chinese language for you whats the problemo ?

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  • Catch the thieves:

    Ex-MND Millionster and new PM will finally try to solve this 40-year-old problem.
    ”PM Lawrence Wong’s first National Day Message to be broadcast on Aug 8”
    500 inspections per month cannot go on forever.
    It makes a mockery of HDB as an organisation.

    Only the Guilty Need to FEAR:
    PUB or SPower. are govt bodies that know everything about your utilty consumption if you live in Sinkieland, probably since the day you were born.
    For them to send this info to HDB to weed out the BTO-Thieves makes a lot of sense.
    Govt bodies sharing info tocatch thieves is a no brainer—happens all the time.
    Since this is a 40 year-old unsolved problem and is RAMPANT, it is A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION!
    Only the GUILTY need to FEAR.

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  • Migrate to USA:

    Your English is so powderful, migrate to USA to be with Amos dah, problem? No problem dah!

    PAP mandate strong:
    But my colleagues no complaints or kpkb and whinnings about Sg.

    He and family also supporter of PAP!

    How ? Reason good enough or not.

    Another reason is to migrate to Japan and South K is you have to pass some of their language proficiency test requirements.

    Whereas migrate China , chinese language for you whats the problemo ?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Sorry man, my english is lousy if not f*** up compared to tech or dave or zhenzhidan or SGAI or hardertruth or many others.

    Its true. I admit it before. No choice , parents not educated and not exposed to the english speaking environment. In the future may not pose as a problem with all this chatgpt or AI.

    Other reasons my colleague still prefer Sg is natural disasters. Japan needless to say earthquake, tsunami ( rare as we have seen ), typhoon , floods …. South Korea also subjected to typhoon, floods , tsunami ( rare but happened before ) ….

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  • Confusion Says:

    Confusion says, “Flood is natural disaster in Japan. Flood is incompetent 11 in China.”

    PAP mandate strong:
    Sorry man, my english is lousy if not f*** up compared to tech or dave or zhenzhidan or SGAI or hardertruth or many others.

    Its true. I admit it before. No choice , parents not educated and not exposed to the english speaking environment. In the future may not pose as a problem with all this chatgpt or AI.

    Other reasons my colleague still prefer Sg is natural disasters. Japan needless to say earthquake, tsunami ( rare as we have seen ), typhoon , floods …. South Korea also subjected to typhoon, floods , tsunami ( rare but happened before ) ….

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  • 老子李耳说。。。。:

    这是最可怕的无礼取闹!

    Confusion Says:
    Confusion says, “Flood is natural disaster in Japan. Flood is incompetent 11 in China.”

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Why ? You prefer to experience the kind of floods in China ? Bridge, Highway, road above mrt even houses collapsed. Feel free to.

    I dont think many here would want that.

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  • 只有亚洲。。。。:

    有人说话就像是一个有47条染色体的人!

    有什么人会喜欢天灾?

    亚洲大陆是一个天灾频发的土地,生活在这里的人几千年来都一直在努力的在改善他们的居住环境。

    建于两千多年前的都江堰水利工程就是一个很好的例子。这水利工程造福无数,两千多年来还在发挥应有的作用。

    京杭大运河是另一个很好的例子,建成后两千多年还在继续造福人群。

    用你聪明的脑袋仔细的想一想,世界上有那一个地区会比亚洲人更努力的去改善自己的居住环境?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    I’m talking about current China. 你跟我扯两千年前. 都江堰? ok, job well done! But it takes 2 generations to complete it. 没有什么中国速度 or 基建狂魔 or whatever. 踏踏实实!
    两千年建的不倒. 十年不到建的先倒.
    Then here flood there also flood. You think China gov compensate the victims ? I dont think so.

    @ 有什么人会喜欢天灾?
    Exactly. Thats why my colleague say Sg still better.

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  • Frog in well:

    China so big place. Sure got places without natural disaster. You don’t know.

    PAP mandate strong:

    @ 有什么人会喜欢天灾?
    Exactly. Thats why my colleague say Sg still better.

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  • rice:

    Floods and such.
    China is so vast.
    To have floods in parts of China is no indication that Chinese govt is not doing a good job for the “renmin”,right?

    In Sg,the BULK OF THE GOODNESS WE HAVE IS THE HARD N HONEST LABOUR OF THE TRUBLU SGS UNDER THE GOOD AND CARING LEADERSHIP OF 1G LIKE DR GOH KENG SWEE who could have made himself one of the richest Billionaire but he chose to SERVE SGS as if it was his “priestly vocation”- a calling.
    Yes,a strong calling to SERVE AND NOT TO BE $ERVED.

    SUBSEQUENT LEEderships of 2G and most especially 3G have brought $IN INC to EXTREME$,HAVE THEY NOT?

    FACT REMAINS SGS HAVE BECOME IMPOVERISHED EVEN AS MULTITUDE$ OF THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES’ JOBLESS NATIONALS WHO ARE DUMPED HERE BY THE PLANELOADS AT “LIGHTNING $PEED” HAVE BECOME RICHER THAN MANY ONCE MIDDLE-CLASS SG-PMETS.
    MANY FTs can even afford to buy cars with high COEs while sgs sell their HDBs or downgrade in order to SURVIVE IN OUR TOP RANKED COL environment.
    Even when $100B was taken out from our sgs’ PAST RESERVES,MANY NEEDY BUT DESERVING SGS RECEIVED ONLY $600 OUT OF A STATED $23.5K.
    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BALANCE OF $22.9K THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE BULK OF THE PER CAPITA GRANT?
    WHY ARE NON-SGS GRANTED MUCH MORE?
    SAVE JOB$?
    WHY CANT CUT WAGE$ THAT WERE SO HIGH?

    WHEN IT COMES TO SGS WHO NEED HELP,WE ARE SO AUSTERE BUT WE CAN SIMPLY LAVISH A $100B ON OTHERS WITHOUT PROPERLY ACCOUNTING FOR IT???
    THESE $100B are older/elderly sgs’ PAST NATIONAL SAVINGS ,NOT SOME “FTs” as claimed by Ms Rajah so haughtily???!

    In EVERY COUNTRY,THE CITIZENS COME FIRST.
    SHOW ME ONE COUNTRY WHERE THE NATIONALS COME AFTER OUTSIDERS?

    NATIONAL DAY?
    NATIONALS’ day??
    Just call it INDEPENDENCE DAY!
    That would be more SINCERE.

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  • Shrieking Sinkies:

    ”Singapore to ‘redouble efforts’ to keep costs of living stable” Lawless HDB99=zero Wong
    ”Serangoon coffee shop sells for eye-watering $40.5 million”
    Guess HDB coffee shups after re-double will sell for $80 million.
    AS long as ML money are free flowing into this ML Hub; we know what will happen.
    Tax evaders also love to park their money in SinkieLand.
    The Hoi Polloi gets the short end of the stick.
    Come GE they will vote papigs for the GST vouchers.
    Sinkies are not exactly the most intelligent people on Earth.
    Papigs awaits some ”FRIGHTENING” event then they will call GE.
    Like GFC or Covid,
    Shrieking, sinking sinkies will then continue to do their own grave digging!

    Elder care:
    Elder care will get more expensive…
    Many Seniors cannot cope with the increase in Medical care costs with their existing Saving scheme and Retirement Savings.

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  • Only some time!:

    At times, you speak like a sage.

    If you speak like a saga all the time, you will be the best, the mother of all speakers.

    rice:
    Floods and such.
    China is so vast.
    To have floods in parts of China is no indication that Chinese govt is not doing a good job for the “renmin”,right?

    In Sg,the BULK OF THE GOODNESS WE HAVE IS THE HARD N HONEST LABOUR OF THE TRUBLU SGSUNDER THE GOOD AND CARING LEADERSHIP OF 1GLIKE DR GOH KENG SWEE who could have made himself one of the richest Billionaire but he chose to SERVE SGS as if it was his “priestly vocation”- a calling.
    Yes,a strong calling to SERVE AND NOT TO BE $ERVED.

    SUBSEQUENT LEEderships of 2G and most especially 3G have brought $IN INC to EXTREME$,HAVE THEY NOT?

    FACT REMAINS SGS HAVE BECOME IMPOVERISHED EVEN AS MULTITUDE$ OF THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES’ JOBLESS NATIONALS WHO ARE DUMPED HERE BY THE PLANELOADS AT “LIGHTNING $PEED” HAVE BECOME RICHER THAN MANY ONCE MIDDLE-CLASS SG-PMETS.
    MANY FTs can even afford to buy cars with high COEs while sgs sell their HDBs or downgrade in order to SURVIVE IN OUR TOP RANKED COL environment.
    Even when $100B was taken out from our sgs’ PAST RESERVES,MANY NEEDY BUT DESERVING SGS RECEIVED ONLY $600 OUT OF A STATED $23.5K.
    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BALANCE OF $22.9K THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE BULK OF THE PER CAPITA GRANT?
    WHY ARE NON-SGS GRANTED MUCH MORE?
    SAVE JOB$?
    WHY CANT CUT WAGE$ THAT WERE SO HIGH?

    WHEN IT COMES TO SGS WHO NEED HELP,WE ARE SO AUSTERE BUT WE CAN SIMPLY LAVISH A $100B ON OTHERS WITHOUT PROPERLY ACCOUNTING FOR IT???
    THESE $100B are older/elderly sgs’ PAST NATIONAL SAVINGS ,NOT SOME “FTs” as claimed by Ms Rajah so haughtily???!

    In EVERY COUNTRY,THE CITIZENS COME FIRST.
    SHOW ME ONE COUNTRY WHERE THE NATIONALS COME AFTER OUTSIDERS?

    NATIONAL DAY?
    NATIONALS’ day??
    Just call it INDEPENDENCE DAY!
    That would be more SINCERE.

    M

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Yeah, i also mentioned before. China big yes. Plenty of land to dig big longkang right. Population biggest also. Is she totally surrounded by the sea ? Answer is obviously nope! Basically the east side and a bit in the South and North.
    Whereas Sg totally surrounded by the sea.

    Beijing also flood too. Let see by end 2024, Shanghai flood or not.

    https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202408/09/content_WS66b61b96c6d0868f4e8e9d2e.html

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  • Frog in well:

    Australia also surrounded by sea. It also has flooding. What your point about Sg surrounded by sea?

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  • Huat Ah:

    Lawless 99 equal zero Wong redouble effort to keep cost down
    ”Marine Parade Hawker Centre stall sets record rental at $10,158 per month! Huat ah!
    Invasion of illegal money into SinkingLand cannot be stopped.
    All 2700 GCBs, some owned by Milllionsters should be sold to No-NS new citizens.
    Ex-Millionsters migrate to Perth where old papigs like to retire,
    True Blue NS served retire in JB,
    Leave the Island for the rich tax-evading newbies—only they can afford it.
    Island sold…just like Christmas Island.

    Shrieking Sinkies:
    ”Singapore to ‘redouble efforts’ to keep costs of living stable” Lawless HDB99=zero Wong
    ”Serangoon coffee shop sells for eye-watering $40.5 million”
    Guess HDB coffee shups after re-double will sell for $80 million.
    AS long as ML money are free flowing into this ML Hub; we know what will happen.
    Tax evaders also love to park their money in SinkieLand.
    The Hoi Polloi gets the short end of the stick.
    Come GE they will vote papigs for the GST vouchers.
    Sinkies are not exactly the most intelligent people on Earth.
    Papigs awaits some ”FRIGHTENING” event then they will call GE.
    Like GFC or Covid,
    Shrieking, sinking sinkies will then continue to do their own grave digging!

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    My point ? China did poorly.
    What else otherwise ?

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  • Frog in well:

    Frog: The sun goes across the top. It never rises and never sets.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Frog ? Why not. I think this word you are already lenient.

    You want to criticise Australia ? At your own discretion. And i will continue to criticise China as i see fit.

    You can continue to act blind or act cannot see. Just hearing the good stuffs. Whos stopping you ?

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  • Frog in well:

    That’s not criticizing Australia. It’s just stating a fact that places surrounded by water also can be flooded. It is intended to show your ignorance.

    Your comments are not criticizing China. They are, what your masters love to say, “baseless scurrilous attacks” on individuals in China and also the entire Chinese people.

    You are probably Chinese, but you don’t consider yourself Chinese. Another Aseanee.

    PAP mandate strong:
    Frog ? Why not. I think this word you are already lenient.

    You want to criticise Australia ? At your own discretion. And i will continue to criticise China as i see fit.

    You can continue to act blind or actcannot see. Just hearing the good stuffs. Whos stopping you ?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Chinese so what ?
    Chinese shouldnt criticize Chinese is it ?
    Yet here many also criticize Sg chinese ministers , PM Lee even LKY. Did you stop them ? No right but instead you 帮忙 shoot.

    China flood is facts what. Did i add salt add vinegar ? I never even bring up the subject what are death counts from the current floods. I m also lenient ok. You are going to tell me its zero ? 鬼才信!

    China dont even allow you to migrate back. I dont see any 好处 and you are telling me off. My family since my grand dad grand ma time never receive a single cent or any goodies from China ok. You like China its you like not me. And 伍子胥 楚国人 照样 whack 楚国.

    You know the China badminton player Zhangzhijie who compete in Indonesia collapsed half way in the competition and died ( Is it root cause mrna vaccine or china vaccine or not vaccinated ? i leave to expert Mr GMS to investigate and fill in the blanks ). Today his body still in Indonesia since 40 days he passed away. China still have not make arrangements to ship or fly back his body. 很难看你知道吗. 他妈的 China treat her own sportsman this way and you expect me to stand on her side. No way man.

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  • Frog in well:

    It’s worth repeating, since some cannot understand.

    Frog in well: Your comments are not criticizing China. They are, what your masters love to say, “baseless scurrilous attacks” on individuals in China and also the entire Chinese people.

    You are probably Chinese, but you don’t consider yourself Chinese. Another Aseanee.

    你的言論並不是批評中國。正如你們的主子喜歡說的那樣,這是對中國個人和全體华人的「毫無根據的卑鄙攻擊」。

    你可能是华人,但你不認為自己是华人。另一個阿西尼。

    உங்கள் கருத்துக்கள் சீனாவை விமர்சிக்கவில்லை. அவை, உங்கள் எஜமானர்கள் கூற விரும்புவது, சீனாவில் உள்ள தனிநபர்கள் மற்றும் ஒட்டுமொத்த சீன மக்கள் மீதும் “ஆதாரமற்ற கொடூரமான தாக்குதல்கள்”.

    நீங்கள் அநேகமாக சீனர்களாக இருக்கலாம், ஆனால் உங்களை நீங்கள் சீனராகக் கருதவில்லை. மற்றொரு ஆசியனி.

    Komen anda tidak mengkritik China. Mereka, seperti yang dikatakan oleh tuan anda, “serangan kejam yang tidak berasas” ke atas individu di China dan rakyat China secara keseluruhan.

    Anda mungkin Cina, tetapi anda tidak menganggap diri anda Cina. Seorang lagi orang Aseanee.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    You think this type of tricks will work ? I m not the one with the glass heart.

    Anyway, like i said very early before. You say your piece and i say my piece. Period!

    We dont see eye to eye. Thats it! Pointless to embroil in a no end dispute.

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  • No D-I-L:

    ”Reported: Norwegian SWF recorded US$138 billions profits in half years results, GIC fallen to 10 years low.

    Are they operating in different planets?”
    Hire the BEST in the world to manage SWF.
    Do not hire your daughter-in-law.
    It will end badly.
    Lesson never learnt.

    Catch the thieves:
    Ex-MND Millionster and new PM will finally try to solve this 40-year-old problem.
    ”PM Lawrence Wong’s first National Day Message to be broadcast on Aug 8”
    500 inspections per month cannot go on forever.
    It makes a mockery of HDB as an organisation.

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  • Frog in well:

    When you attack an entire race, people have the right to defend themselves. Dio bo? Especially when it is a baseless scurrilous attack.

    Since you bring up this badminton player situation, let me point out your baseless scurrilous attack.

    1. You know the China badminton player Zhangzhijie who compete in Indonesia collapsed half way in the competition and died ( Is it root cause mrna vaccine or china vaccine or not vaccinated ? i leave to expert Mr GMS to investigate and fill in the blanks ).
    You insinuating something. Since you do not so it explicitly, it’s hard to comment.

    2. Today his body still in Indonesia since 40 days he passed away.
    This is a factual statement, as far as my search can confirm. There is very recent info that the body will be soon cremated in Indonesia, by the family.

    3. China still have not make arrangements to ship or fly back his body.
    This part is the baseless scurrilous attack. The China embassy, China and Indonesia badminton organizations were involved. The family members were in Indonesia for a long time. Why is the body still there? No one, neither family nor orgs, have stated the reason.

    4. 很难看你知道吗. 他妈的 China treat her own sportsman this way and you expect me to stand on her side. No way man.
    Then you continue with more baseless scurrilous attack.

    If you don’t want people to point out your ridiculous and aggressive comments, post your comments in your toilet.

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  • $1 million only:

    Their CEO pay is only $1 million. The returns are very impressive. All their investments are openly listed for all to see.

    Compare with some place where a sub sub ceo got $20 million bonus. You think most of the could be returns are wasted in bonuses?

    No D-I-L:
    ”Reported: Norwegian SWF recorded US$138 billions profits in half years results, GIC fallen to 10 years low.

    Are they operating in different planets?”
    Hire the BEST in the world to manage SWF.
    Do not hire your daughter-in-law.
    It will end badly.
    Lesson never learnt.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Baseless attack ? Like what ?

    Floods ? Fake news i dont think so.
    About vaccination or not, let Mr GMS investigate and comment is okay ah. Hes on your side and not my side.
    Cannot migrate to China ( Thats what tech say ) ? I always support you to migrate to China even go China embassy and bang table 争取. At least long stay there. 我为你幸福着想.
    Zhang zie jie body in Indonesia is true and not only i comment this way.

    https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=898004545688695&id=100064374742112

    Family is an excuse.
    Shouldnt China embassy help to arrange back to China first. Probably claiming Insurance 谈不拢. Dont tell me authority and family need to talk about expenses first ?
    What Confucius teaching ? What chinese culture? What treasure family relationship ? 死者为大, get the funeral over first. 入土为安. Perhaps you should donate to help.

    Sorry man. 依然是难看.
    You want to scold me just go ahead.
    No need to reserve. Fire at will.

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  • Dictator Follower:

    So your gov can go against family wishes and force a body to be taken out of the hospital in Indonesia and sent to a hospital of your gov choice.

    What kind of dictator follower are you?

    Family approval comes first. A good gov should not, must not override the family in such cases.

    You have been well trained by pappy gov.

    PAP mandate strong: Family is an excuse.
    Shouldnt China embassy help to arrange back to China first. Probably claiming Insurance 谈不拢. Dont tell me authority and family need to talk about expenses first ?
    What Confucius teaching ? What chinese culture? What treasure family relationship ? 死者为大, get the funeral over first. 入土为安. Perhaps you should donate to help.

    Sorry man. 依然是难看.
    You want to scold me just go ahead.
    No need to reserve. Fire at will.

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  • Frog in well:

    You guess, and then you scold self-righteously based on your baseless guess.

    You could be the best police. You guess, you arrest and torture until you get the confession you want. Case solved. No need for evidence. A “good” judge will accept the confession. Time for celebration. Reminds people of a certain maid case.

    PAP mandate strong: Dont tell me authority and family need to talk about expenses first ?

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  • Pappies is sotong:

    Elderly sinkies need more attention from gahmen.
    Everytime ND RALLY dish out goodies for young sgs or aliens but very negligible for elderly.
    Only talk about ageing.
    Very little done.

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  • Ah Low:

    Marine Parade Hawker placed $10K bid for stall says it is worth it.
    How stupid!
    Boycott the stall.
    The cost will be passed onto customers.
    Marine Parade has quite a lot of retirees.
    The more the hawker pays to Government Agency ,the more the cost will be passed to customers.

    Bidding system for hawker stalls is a bad system as only RICH HAWKERS CAN AFFORD.
    And,if ONLY RICH HAWKERS TENDER FOR HAWKER STALLS,THESE HAWKERS WILL JUST INCREASE PRICES OR CUT CORNERS TO MAKE MORE PROFITS .
    THIS IS A FORM OF CARTEL.
    IT WILL JACK UP ONCE AFFORDABLE HAWKER FOODS FOR ORDINARY SGS LIKE RETIREES AND NEEDY.

    THIS PRACTICE SHOULD BE HALTED.
    IS THIS HAWKER DRIVING MERC OR BMW OR BENTLEY AND OWN LANDED PROPERTIES?
    MUST BE FILTHY RICH.
    MAYBE SHE SHOULD BID TO OPERATE AN ORCHARD ROAD SHOP?

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  • D-I-L vs Buffet:

    Imagine what returns we could have garnered if Temasek monies was invested with Warren Buffet the day that daughter-in-law took over.
    Our TH would be so full by now that we could easily scrapped GST forever!
    Always hire the best in whatever you do.
    Our children would be enjoying the benefits like the Bruneians.
    Big FAIL

    $1 million only:
    Their CEO pay is only $1 million. The returns are very impressive. All their investments are openly listed for all to see.

    Compare with some place where a sub sub ceo got $20 million bonus. You think most of the could be returns are wasted in bonuses?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Today’s 21th aug . I cannot find any news reporting to confirm cremation’s been taken place. Even by USA date and time, its 11:36 pm Tuesday, 20 August 2024 (GMT-4). Anyone ?

    Well i suggest lets wait until 26th aug before you all quick and baselessly help China 洗地.

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  • Frog in well:

    It is already shown that you make up your own story to do baseless scurrilous attacks on China and Chinese family values.

    You claim China gov did nothing to help. This is already shown to be false.

    Whatever the development now, you can’t run away from your false claim and baseless scurrilous attack. What are you hoping for?

    PAP mandate strong:
    Today’s 21th aug . I cannot find any news reporting to confirm cremation’s been taken place. Even by USA date and time, its 11:36 pm Tuesday, 20 August 2024 (GMT-4). Anyone ?

    Well i suggest lets wait until 26th aug before you all quick and baselessly help China 洗地.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Muz confirm.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Yes. Confirmed!

    Indonesia reported. The matter comes to a closure. Please google translate yourself.

    https://sport.tempo.co/amp/1906367/tak-jadi-dipulangkan-jenazah-atlet-bulu-tangkis-cina-zhang-zhi-jie-dikremasi-di-rs-sardjito-yogyakarta

    Title : Not Returned, Chinese Badminton Athlete Zhang Zhi Jie’s Body Cremated at Sardjito Yogyakarta Hospital

    China dont see any news report. Expected. Lets wait until 26th to see any memorial held in China.

    Btw, why cremate in Indonesia instead of in China ? What happen to 此生不悔入华夏, 来世还做中国人 ?

    Let me dig further.

    Tech: If I am not mistaken, almost all airlines DO NOT allow corpse to be transported unless it is a chartered flight or as a cargo, then it would require a coffin and some cold storage thingy I supposed. Besides, I think all the customs and declaration also very troublesome, so the fasmily decided to cremate it (cheaper in Indo, China costs a bomb), Ease of transport and more convenient, I supposed.

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  • Frog in well:

    Your understanding of Chinese is really limited. Where in this statement “此生不悔入华夏, 来世还做中国人” does it say a dead body must be cremated in China? It is a wish for the next life. Understand?

    You think Christians who want to go to heaven want to bring their old, diseased, frail dead bodies there?

    PAP mandate strong: Btw, why cremate in Indonesia instead of in China ? What happen to 此生不悔入华夏, 来世还做中国人 ?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    此生不悔入华夏 already say it. 此生 from birth to death also muz 入华夏.

    If this is not fake news then the issues is still monies issue.

    https://m.sohu.com/a/801337863_100288257/?pvid=000115_3w_a

    ” 有媒体爆料了其中的原因,首先从印尼将张志杰的遗体运过来费用太高,据说需要100多万,这对于普通家庭来说是难以接受的。在此,希望张志杰能逝者安息! “.

    Therefore quite sure China gov or China Red cross or whatever never help and strangely no crowdfunding.

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  • Forgiven:

    I thought your Chinese very powderful. Now, it’s clear. You are forgiven for your nonsensical comments.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Never have i said my chinese very “powderful” ?
    I did say my english f*** up compared to tech or harder truth or spineless sinkie or ZhenZhiDan or SGAI …and many others.

    Finally, China reported.

    http://www.shaoxing.com.cn/p/3233926.html

    Explain to me this part.

    “张志杰家属一直希望能将张志杰遗体带回国内处理后事,因身份特殊,未能如愿。据家属讲述,因为是参加公务活动,按照规定要走公务人员的流程,所以遗体不能回国。”

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